Tips For Dealing With Younger Girl..

Well I guess my game has improved some I am 29 talking to a
28 year old and a girl that is 21. I tell you I dont believe a
guy should date just one women at a time. A man needs choices
more choices leads to more empowerment.

Regardless, the 28 year old I am about to sleep with.
Hope to seal the deal tonight or over the weekend.

The 21-year old I find myself much more attracted to
not only physically but as a person and character wise.
I am ready to take it to the next level. I admit I like younger
women. Anyways, the one objective I face is our age difference.

I thought about creating an nlp pattern to attempt to run on her if
this objective is brought up.
I have an idea on it.

Secondly, I havent ran incredible connection
because I wonder about attempting to elicit a state which she may
have never experienced.

Tips To Improve Your Game

Here’s a something that’s helped my game
tremendously. After you had
sex for the first time, see if you can find out what it was that made
her want to have sex with you. While you’re at it,find out the when
part too. Both are important.

Be diplomatic here.

Here’s what I did last time. After a fun filled night at her
place(I’ll spare you the details), she made us breakfast and brought
it to bed. We talked a bit about the last night and then her sister
called because they were going to go to their aunt’s house to do
something with their aunt. We went back to the conversation and I
commented on her cotton sheets…she leaned over and so did I…I
smelled her neck and told her that I like how she smells. She said “I
think you want more”…and I of course couldn’t disagree… we went
for another round.

I forgot all about the damn breakfast! By the time we were done, it
was cold.But it was worth it. Anyway, then I said “I knew you were
trouble since I laid my eyes on you” She of course played coy and gave
me her “good girl” routine, but I wasn’t buying any of that.

I sensed she was good to be debriefed at this point, so I went first
and said “You know, when we sat down at XXX, I sensed there was so
much sexual tension you could cut it with a knife” She said “I know, I
felt it too” .Then I said “I normally don’t let things happen so
quickly, but this just felt right” She agreed. Then she went on and on
how there was so much chemistry between us that it was the most
natural thing and how good it felt. I agreed. Then I asked her WHEN
did she know we were going to “sleep together”(her words)? Can you
guess? After we sat down at our table and talked for less than 10
minutes! I told her for me it was just around the time the waiter
brought us our food (maybe 20 mins) and that if I were to pick one
thing that did it for me I’d have a really hard time…but I’d go with
her touch. She thought about it for a few seconds and then she said
that she agreed about the chemistry between us, but what really did it
for was my eyes!.

Note: I’ve heard a version of this over and over and it seems to work
for me really well. I’ve metioned what I do with my eyes in a previous
post.

Now, what can you learn here? To use your eyes to sporadically
communicate your sexual desire? Sure. But there is a more important
lesson here– notice what works and see if you can improve it.

Exceptions to this “rule” of mine:

*If she is shy, wait for a couple more “get togethers”– proceed slowly.
*If she is not as sexual as you are, proceeed slowly– 2 or 3rd get
together.
*Sometimes you don’t feel like doing it– maybe she doesn’t do it for you.
*Feel her out– be flexible!

Anyway, sometimes this may take 5 minutes and other times a lot
longer, but it’s worth it. Just go slowly and debrief them after sex
and find out WHEN they wanted to first have sex with you as well as
what it was about you that made them decide (this may be just their
rationalization- that’s OK, listen anyway) and you can’t help but
improve your game.

Ok, gotta go to bed. Hope someone will put this to good use.Here’s a something that’s helped my game
tremendously. After you had
sex for the first time, see if you can find out what it was that made
her want to have sex with you. While you’re at it,find out the when
part too. Both are important.

Be diplomatic here.

Here’s what I did last time. After a fun filled night at her
place(I’ll spare you the details), she made us breakfast and brought
it to bed. We talked a bit about the last night and then her sister
called because they were going to go to their aunt’s house to do
something with their aunt. We went back to the conversation and I
commented on her cotton sheets…she leaned over and so did I…I
smelled her neck and told her that I like how she smells. She said “I
think you want more”…and I of course couldn’t disagree… we went
for another round.

I forgot all about the damn breakfast! By the time we were done, it
was cold.But it was worth it. Anyway, then I said “I knew you were
trouble since I laid my eyes on you” She of course played coy and gave
me her “good girl” routine, but I wasn’t buying any of that.

I sensed she was good to be debriefed at this point, so I went first
and said “You know, when we sat down at XXX, I sensed there was so
much sexual tension you could cut it with a knife” She said “I know, I
felt it too” .Then I said “I normally don’t let things happen so
quickly, but this just felt right” She agreed. Then she went on and on
how there was so much chemistry between us that it was the most
natural thing and how good it felt. I agreed. Then I asked her WHEN
did she know we were going to “sleep together”(her words)? Can you
guess? After we sat down at our table and talked for less than 10
minutes! I told her for me it was just around the time the waiter
brought us our food (maybe 20 mins) and that if I were to pick one
thing that did it for me I’d have a really hard time…but I’d go with
her touch. She thought about it for a few seconds and then she said
that she agreed about the chemistry between us, but what really did it
for was my eyes!.

Getting A Girl Number?

I think getting a girls number is completely over-rated.
Basically, after talking with some girls last night that I ended up
hooking up with, she told me what Aaron had told me that night
earlier. Girls will go out to just give out their numbers as a sort of
competition or whatever. It’s ironic because guys go out competing to
see how many numbers they can get. My friend has it happen to him many
times; girl gives him her number then flakes. Sometimes it works out
but I would say more then 60% of the time it doesn’t.

Recently I’ve made the decision that unless I kiss the girl that
night or set up a future date, I’m not going to ask for her number. I
know there is tons of literature on how to prevent flaking but I don’t
think that stuff works that well. I guess part of it is that I really
don’t care that much about any one girl. Just wanted to see what you
guys thought about this.

Also, I can’t tell you how valuable field experience is. I know
it’s hard and you’ll fail but it’s going to be your best lesson.

Eye contact – Simplest, Most Sure-Fire Ways Which Always Work

Let me start off by saying I’m no guru; I’m not some master PUA.
I’ve probably done around 50 cold approches (since I started like 2
months ago after reading a lot) had some good results, whatever. So
take what I say with a grain of salt. I need a ton of practice and
that’s what I’m trying to do.

I guess what I would say about this is you don’t want to come off
as “too eager”. If you smile at her and she smiles back and you say
hi, then that’s a natural exchange. If you smile at her and she
doesn’t smile back but you say high and your back is more or less to
her then I think you’re not going to come off as desperate. Does that
make sense? Your body language says no but you are saying yes. I’ve
never really done this in the field; I usually look over my shoulder
and say hey guys, and then go to the opener. It also depends if you
are going to go with a more direct game (usually works on that girl
that you think is hot but others may not, I’ve found this usually
means you have some sort of connection or she has attracted you, these
are often the best to go for). When I say direct, usually that means
she will say hi back or whatever; she might just be shy. This is sort
of stream of consciousness since I’m walking out the door but I think
it’s an interesting point.

I’ve seen many different conflicting opinions across pick up
boards. One other example is one PUA saying opinion openers aren’t
good because it shows you need something from her. Others will say
it’s a hook question and girls like that. I personally like opinion
openers but I’ve also been asked if I was taking a survey or something
if I stuck with it for too long. I think the best idea is to just get
field experience, try some lines or openers on your friends that are
girls; see how they respond. I can’t stress the importance field
practice. It also is great if you view it as practice. I’ve gotten
quite far with girls sometimes and just walked away because either
I’ve been disinterested or just didn’t care enough or achieved my
objective (practice openers, rapport whatever). Sorry, I’m drifting
but I hope you get my point, just go see what works and tell us about
it. I’ll mess with it tonight and tell you if I have any interesting
results. Oh, and something George said earlier ALWAYS BE HONEST.

Meeting Single Women Online

Okay, I will weigh in on the issue of online dating as I have had some good
experience with it. This group is about what works and has been field tested. I
will submit this supplement to my prior post 11905 (Online Dating, or should I
say, Online Screening). Read that post in addition to this one to get a better
picture of what has worked for me.

Before I ever went online looking to meet a woman, I got my act together. I lost
weight. I got a new, casual, hip look. I got a new haircut and some new clothes.
I prepared myself mentally to meet people. I became outgoing and overcame my
hangups with approaching beautiful women. I learned to flirt. I have an
interesting job, am well read, educated, traveled and have some interesting
hobbies. I can easily hold someone¢s attention for an extended period of time.

Only after all of that, I created an online profile. My online profile was a
supplement to me going out regularly and working on myself and interacting with
women.

PHOTOS

I use REAL photos of me randomly taken. I have photos of me with my friends. I
even have photos of me taken when I was at my heaviest. Why? Because the women
who are not turned off by that are the ones I want to meet. They get the REAL me
- the good, the bad and the ugly (which I never was). The photos are fairly high
resolution. Additionally, I am frequently told that I am much more handsome in
person which probably helps me when I actually meet the woman.

PROFILE

My profile is very unique, and sometimes I would get email from women who were
not interested in me just to tell me how funny it is and ask if I was the
author. I am. I simply posted one of my little blogs.

SERVICE

I subscribed to match.com and had an okcupid account. I liked the functionality
of okcupid more than match, but match seemed to be more productive. I also
posted a funny story on craigslist three times with a picture of me. Each time I
did that, I met someone I considered to be a quality candidate. However, I don¢t
recommend craigslist because of the HUGE amount of spam. But, I did meet some
interesting people there.

RESULTS

Of the women I have dated, I tended to have more and longer relationships with
the women I met online. My theory for this is because by glancing at an online
profile, I was able to readily screen for certain traits that I know would annoy
me. As such, I just did not contact those whose values were too different from
mine.

In terms of quantity, I might get a 10 – 20% response to emails I sent out.
Furthermore, because of my myspace page, 90% of those who contacted me would be
run off or intimidated or something else that turned them off. That was fine for
me because I used the myspace page as a screening tool. It did what I wanted it
to do. As such, I never had a bad date from anyone I met on the net after I
started using myspace.

When I would initially contact someone, I would include OBVIOUS references to
their profile proving that I read and considered it. If nothing interesting
jumped out at me, I just never send a message. It is really that simple. I have
been told that my emails come off as a little bit cocky and funny. However, I
don¢t do the David D¢Angleo stuff. That is just my personality.

A WORD OF CAUTION

I would not recommend that anyone do exactly what I have done as what I did runs
off the VAST majority of women. The perception is that I am a player which is
completely false. The fact is that I am looking for one particular woman, and
have to go through a large number of them to find THE ONE which matches me.

It should also be noted that even women I meet out socially get the same
impression. It has been my observation that once we become “good” with the
opposite sex we are labeled “players” because only players are consistently
successful with women.

If you email me privately, I can send you links to my profiles. However, they
are off right now as I have been seeing someone, and I don¢t want however many
thousands of guys to diluting the impact of what I wrote in my profiles.
I hope this information helps some of you.

REMEMBER: IT ISN¢T ABOUT BEING GOOD ONLINE. YOU HAVE TO BE GOOD (EVEN BETTER) IN
PERSON. Focus on yourself and overcoming your own limitations.

Do go though and read the archives. There is A LOT of good advice there. Some of
the guys here really know what they are doing and they offer some good advice.
Several of us come from different perspectives and have different goals.
Personally, I have found the people here to be informative and their assistance
is very valuable. If one idea does not work for you and your personality, just
move to the next one. Somebody will eventually offer you some advice that will
be of use to you.

A little over a year ago, I was the typical guy – a little too shy to approach
someone I did not know. But, when my marriage ended, I realized I did not want
to be alone and I wanted an improvement over my ex. I simply made the decision
to be gregarious and outgoing and do well with the opposite sex. I won¢t say it
was easy. If it were, everyone would be great with women. But, it is possible.

Good luck.

Where To Find The Type Of Woman You Would Like To Meet?

What you really looking for?
Go to places where you think you can find the type of woman you would like
to meet.
The type of music you enjoy listening to.
Then upon that, search the net about night life places in your area, look
them up, usually there is a website listed . See what type of people go to
these places and how they are dressed, because it’s very very important to
dress fashionly nice in those places, since competition is too high.

Talk to girls you see in public places, open them by asking ” Hey guys, my
sister and my cousin coming down next week and you might tell me about a few
good places in town, just moved in, Any places we shouldn’t go near” that
would get her to talk and to think, then she’ll be telling you about good
places to see or places she goes to and from here you can take the
conversation in any direction you wish.

3-4 days later you call her and talk, maybe meet over a drink then the week
after you call her and after 3 minute talk, you tell her than your sister
couldn’t get off work, so no visits, but hey, you got me interested to go to
the place you suggested, lets do this this Friday or Saturday”

Places to consider finding those girls, depending on what you really looking
for
clubs 17+
clubs 21+
public gatherings
book stores
coffee shops
malls
university
gym

Some Insight About My Dating Game

I’m realizing that my rapport skills kick ass. I have nothing to worry about
there. The area of my game that needs all the work is in attraction.

Here are my thoughts on rapport though. It is to do with being at ease – if
the other person is not at ease with your presence (they are tense), you do
not let this make you ill-at-ease or tense. Instead you just remain totally
comfortable. You communicate that you are comfortable in their presence by
just being comfortable.

I’m good at this. I have good self control when it comes to this particular
ability. This last girl today was like a block of ice, but I just sat there
and had the vibe that she is my best friend. I sometimes would look away at
something in the distance while I was talking, like you do when you are
talking to your friend, you don’t eyeball them all the time. Slowly they
begin to get in sync with you and become at ease, then you have rapport.

It is like slowly melting a block of ice by radiating a gentle warm glow.
This is why there is also this thing of them feeling “cold” or “warm”. Some
people are really cold, so you want your relaxed glow to warm them up.

I cannot imagine that any person who you do this with would not appreciate
it, even subconsciously. It’s my belief that everyone wants to connect, on
some level.

The Dating Game – Scenario With A Girl..

Okay guys I love this board you guys have some great takes.
While I dont post as much I do read.

Anyways, I finished “The Game” and it has changed much
of my perspective.

I pretty much view my interactions with women as a experiement
to see how my game has or is progressing, what I am good and
what I need to work on. It isnt all about winning and
results.

That said I met a girl through a buddy and while drinking
at my place I showed interest in her the way an AFC does.
Complimenting her on her looks weak shit like that.

I am interested and we have flirted some but she is now
trying to hook me up with her friend. She is hosting a party
saturday night with friends. After my prior debacle
I am curious what strategy you guys would suggest to get her
attention.

Again I would like to get to know her but I really
feel like this is more an opportunity to improve my game.

The only thought process I have had is to either neg her or totally
ignore her and hit on her friends in front of her.
I dont believe the neg would work however because I believe she
does not have the highest self esteem. She has been in abusive
relationships in the past and I know that. In a situation like this
what would you guys approach be?

More On Internet Dating

I think the nice picture is doing the work more than the words.

I knew someone would say that but it isn’t true, because the picture has
been the same all along. What has changed multiple times is my opening
email, and I’ve had multiple kinds of profiles up.

The pic has never changed, the only thing that’s changed is the words I
write.

Most girls will tell intuitively that my lines about taking them around the
world are bullshit, but what I AM demonstrating is originality, personality,
spark, energy, and humor. This is what gets me the comebacks and interest.

I am NOT sending the emails that every other guy is sending which will be
“Err hi, I like your profile. Check mine out and if you like what you see,
errr, write back.”

The words of my email and my profile (I’ve noticed) are kind of irrelevant.
I can sort of say ANYTHING, just like you can say anything when you approach
a women, but what you want to get through to them is ENERGY and ORIGINALITY.